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Ken H.
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« on: December 15, 2009, 08:12:02 am »

Hi Randy,

Guess what?  The C&C 34R naming is just as confusing as the 37-2 aka 37/40 aka 40 group of +, XL & R.

The 34/36 seems to have been first produced in 1989, quote: "Launched in the spring of '89, the new 34/36 (originally just called the 34) comes in three versions (+, XL and R). The design is actually 35 feet, six inches overall, sporting a "performance plus" 30-foot, 10 inch waterline." & "Let's clear up the names. The "+" version is for the club racer-cruiser. The "R" is the full-blown racing version. The latest version, the "XL", is meant to satisfy the sailors who want "R" performance but with more creature comforts below. ": http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm

You may also want to change your value for waterline length to the 30' 10" mentioned in the quote as that seems to be the number in the C&C 34+ brochure on the Photo Album.
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S/V Salazar - CAN 54955
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 11:46:37 am »

You're right. That part is still a mess. There a number of dupes in there too.  Let me have a look. Been working on a redesign of the site.
As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

rb

Hi Randy,

Guess what?  The C&C 34R naming is just as confusing as the 37-2 aka 37/40 aka 40 group of +, XL & R.

The 34/36 seems to have been first produced in 1989, quote: "Launched in the spring of '89, the new 34/36 (originally just called the 34) comes in three versions (+, XL and R). The design is actually 35 feet, six inches overall, sporting a "performance plus" 30-foot, 10 inch waterline." & "Let's clear up the names. The "+" version is for the club racer-cruiser. The "R" is the full-blown racing version. The latest version, the "XL", is meant to satisfy the sailors who want "R" performance but with more creature comforts below. ": http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm

You may also want to change your value for waterline length to the 30' 10" mentioned in the quote as that seems to be the number in the C&C 34+ brochure on the Photo Album.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 12:36:02 pm »

I wasn't trying to suggest your site is confusing.  It is just that C&C, by first marketing the boat as a 34+, XL or R and then deciding to call it a 34/36+, XL or R and then by the mid 90's just marketing the same boat (with a few minor changes such as redesigned transom incorporating moulded in steps and a swim platform) as a 36+ or 36XL or 36R doesn't help someone doing research into these boats.  You can see them listed on Yachtworld as 34's, 36's and as 34/36's.  Sometimes brokers list the same boat twice, once as a 34' and again as a 36'...
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 08:20:34 pm »

mmmmmm.
Confusing, yes. But you seem to have summarized it pretty well.   Far better than I would have been able to.  In fact, I may partially quote you on that, if you don't mind.  Even then, the uninitiated will need to do a second read if they really wish to sort it all out.
I just need to figure out WHERE to put it.  I think I may start by changing the C&C 34+DK to just C&C+, and follow the logic of your summary.

At least they are all C&C's.  Nowhere near as convoluted as some of the smaller trailer-sailer models where the molds for a particular boat were sold to another company every month. The one that comes to mind is a group under the Balboa, Laguna, Windrose, Ensenada, Aquarius, Classic, ugh, names.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 02:35:27 pm »

Right.  But check this out. Part of a brochure (from 6/89) that shows a 30' 7" waterline.

rb
You're right. That part is still a mess. There a number of dupes in there too.  Let me have a look. Been working on a redesign of the site.
As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

rb

Hi Randy,

Guess what?  The C&C 34R naming is just as confusing as the 37-2 aka 37/40 aka 40 group of +, XL & R.

The 34/36 seems to have been first produced in 1989, quote: "Launched in the spring of '89, the new 34/36 (originally just called the 34) comes in three versions (+, XL and R). The design is actually 35 feet, six inches overall, sporting a "performance plus" 30-foot, 10 inch waterline." & "Let's clear up the names. The "+" version is for the club racer-cruiser. The "R" is the full-blown racing version. The latest version, the "XL", is meant to satisfy the sailors who want "R" performance but with more creature comforts below. ": http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm

You may also want to change your value for waterline length to the 30' 10" mentioned in the quote as that seems to be the number in the C&C 34+ brochure on the Photo Album.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2009, 04:15:46 pm »

Looks like you were right all along.  I found a sentence in another brochure (Introducing C&C 34+) stating a 30' 7" waterline.  Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 12:13:31 pm »

You aren't the one that has created the confusion and I appreciate your input.  Actually a slight difference in rudder design could account for this difference in waterline length and I think this was mentioned in one of the posts.
Have a great new year.
rb


Looks like you were right all along.  I found a sentence in another brochure (Introducing C&C 34+) stating a 30' 7" waterline.  Sorry for the confusion.
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