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    Jonni
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    Capsize and comfort ratios seem useful to have but what do they mean exactly? It looks like the lower the capsize ratio the better, and the less likelihood of a knockdown or capsize. How accurate are these figures? What would be the threshold or bare minimum for offshore sailing? And on the same topic, what does the comfort ratio refer to? Is it creature comforts or comfort related to seaworthiness? Where can one find references to these figures or more information?
    Thanks

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    Ken A Heaton
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    Motion Comfort Ratio was developed by Boat Designer Ted Brewer. The formula predicts the speed of the upward and downward motion of the boat as it encounters waves and swells. The faster the motion the more uncomfortable the passengers. Thus, the formula predicts the overall comfort of a boat when it is underway.

    A more complete explanation is here: https://wavetrain.net/2011/10/15/crunching-numbers-brewer-comfort-ratio/

    #83126
    Jonni
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    Very good! Thanks for the explanation and the link to the excellent article! Very informative, really loved reading it… and will also read about the D/L ratio and sail area/displacement ratio in separate articles he explains.

    #83127

    Hey guys, just fyi… Clicking on the “help ?” on the upper right side of the Sailboat Calculations box will also give you an explanation of the different ratios/formulas.

    #83131
    DarSailor
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    Hello to all.
    To my experience, the comfort ratio number is quite informative about how the boat behaves in the rough seas: I’m feeling myself much better in the Albin Stratus (35 feet, comfort ratio of 25) than in more luxurious Beneteou Oceanis 393 (39 feet, comfort ratio of 23). Of course, it may be subjective, but there are more parameters to consider than just measurements. One of these parameters (not easily described in numbers) is the hull shape, which can affect the comfort ratio greatly.

    #84206
    Chiquita Henry under way w 3 people stbdKayakeur
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    There is a button for Definitions on right side of screen next to “Sailboat Calculations”.
    Good explanations.
    However, there are no definitions for I, J, P, and E.
    What are they?
    Thanks,
    Kayakeur
    Venture of Newport 23 swing keel trailerable cutter
    in the eastern foothills of Shenandoah Mountains, Virginia, near Chesapeake Bay

    #84217

    Hi budroberts9, For records where we have rig dimensions, click on the “help?” link in the upper right corner of the Rig and Sail Particulars box. An image will pop-up showing what each of these measurement letters stand for.

    #91825
    DONFG2023
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    TO BE SURE – WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS BASICALLY THE HIGHER THE COMFORT RATING THE MORE COMFORTABLE THE VESSEL AND THE LOWER THE CAPSIZE RATIO THE LESS LIKELY TO CAPSIZE SHE IS ?

    #91831
    IMG 1724PaulK
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    There are lots of threads on other sites that discuss the validity of “comfort” ratings and capsize ratios. Essentially, different hull forms make these numbers inaccurate. They only work when you compare similar hull forms, and even then the results are relative, not definitive.

    #91862
    DONFG2023
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    I STARTED SAILING AT AGE 6 ON AN ALPINE LAKE (NUANGOLA) IN PENNSYLVANIA WITH A 12′ SAILING PRAM MY DAD BUILT (& BUILT WELL ENOUGH THAT 20 YRS. LATER I SOLD IT  TO A GOOD FRIEND WHO SAILED IT FOR 15 MORE YEARS IN THE LONG ISLAND SOUND). THE BOAT HAD A 17′ MAST AND 100 SQ’ OF SAIL WITH A CENTERBOARD. I SAILED HER FOR 10 YEARS AND REALLY HAVE NOT SAILED SINCE BUTAT 78 AM LOOKING TO BUY A 32′ TO 41′ BOAT THAT I WISH TO SAIL WHEREVER I WANT TO SAIL THAT HAS PERFECT WEATHER, CALM SEAS AND FRIENDLY PEOPLE . I KNOW I NEED TO TAKE A GOOD SAILING COURSE BEFOREI EVEN ATTEMPT TO LEAVE A DOCK WITH MINE BUT THESE FORMULAS HAVE BEEN QUITEHELPFUL AND INSTRUCTIVE FOR ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPERTISE

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