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  • in reply to: Endurance 35 passage upwind, beating #84108
    Michael Norman
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    Hi Paul. I get what you are saying. It maybe just a function of the design and I should stop fretting about it. Interestingly my previous boat was a Laurent Giles Atlantic 40. A beautiful boat that took me on an Atlantic Circuit. The keel design was similar to my current boat. Guess what, it didn’t win any prizes for pointing either.

    I will probably go with a change to a genoa if only to make sail handling easier. I’m not getting any younger. Thanks for your help.

    Mick

    in reply to: Endurance 35 passage upwind, beating #84102
    Michael Norman
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    Re psk125 Yes lots of variables. Unfortunately the time for experimentation has passed. She is out of the water for the winter now. I have however tried most of the things you suggest. Mizen up, mizen down, stay sail up, stay sail down, sails in, sails out, sails tight, sails loose. I get a pretty good impression of what is happening across the ground with the track on the chart plotter. The angle of tack stubbornly refuses to improve. The Endurance 35 was never designed as a performance boat and it may well be that this is the way it is.

    The real test would be if out there there was another E35 owner with whom I could compare notes.

    Thanks for your comments they are much appreciated. At the moment I am planning to change the current yankee/stay sail arrangement for a genoa. I’m hoping this will improve drive and ease sail handling. Fingers crossed.

    Mick

    in reply to: Endurance 35 passage upwind, beating #84101
    Michael Norman
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    Thanks for your comments I will certainly discuss your points with the sail maker before we proceed. I wasn’t sure I fully understood your first sentence though. I would be grateful if you could expand on that a little.

    Thanks

    in reply to: Endurance 35 passage upwind, beating #84097
    Michael Norman
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    Thanks for your reply Mark. I assume I have a shoal draft. It is 1.52m, I have seen data for E35s with deeper keels.

    Pointing relative to the apparent wind is good. I.e. Looking at the mast head wind indicator she is where she should be. The real give away is the plot on the chart plotter which shows the excessive amount of leeway that is being made. In tacking she is typically going through 140 degrees. I don’t expect a high performance but this makes up wind sailing time consuming. I have tried most permutations of sail tight and slack as you suggest but it makes little difference.

    Any chop, not so much swell can stop it going through the wind. I believe that it is lacking upwind drive which is contributing to the leeway and making it problematic in going through the wind.

    I am actively considering replacing the existing yankee/staysail arrangement with a genoa hopefully to increase up wind speed. I have discussed this with a sail maker who says he has made a genoa for an E35 ketch before. Unfortunately I don’t know the reasoning behind the change in that particular case other than making sail handling easier.

    Unfortunately she is out of the water now for the winter so I can’t experiment any more.

    I would welcome any further comments based on this further information.

    Thanks

    Mick

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