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Hi Sam, The Endurance 35 and 37 are the same hull. What differentiates the two is the 35 is typically a ketch while the 37 is a cutter. There are also differences with the interior.
Also keep in mind, the Endurance was built by both amateur and professional builders so there will be some variation in the specifications boat to boat.
Hope this helps.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHi Jim, We’ve updated our comment section to reflect a keel/cb for the Newport 15. We also added that four Buzzards Bay 15’s had fixed keels.
Like with the Fish class changes, in the brochure ca. 1936, Herreshoff reported slightly different beam and draft than what we had been showing. We’ve updated those as well.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.December 24, 2023 at 10:08 am in reply to: Sail are and Displacement error for Herreshoff Fish #90233Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterThanks Jim, we’ve updated the SA and displacement. After doing that, our SA/disp ratio updated to 21.01 We’re pretty sure ours is correct as it’s an automatic calculation.
In looking into this, we found a Herreshoff brochure ca. 1936 which shows slightly different beam and draft than what we had been reporting. We’ve updated those as well.Attachments:
You must be logged in to view attached files.Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHi Frank, If you want, send me an email to contact [at] sailboatdata [dot] com. I have another Jouet 1280 owner whose contact info I can share.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterThe issue with draft in Refine Search has been fixed. Fingers crossed. Apologies for the delay and any inconvenience it might have caused.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHello Norm, thanks for your note. We agree with everything you are saying. Please know, though, that as a site we strive to be as consistent as possible across all builders worldwide. (While 45% of our monthly users are from the US, we get about 30% from Europe, 10% from Canada and still another 15% from other countries around the globe. For example, Australia normally comes in ranked about 6th.)
Today, many but not all builder’s worldwide use LOA to include overhangs and LOD for hull length. That said, some still stick with the “honest” use of LOA… hull length.
When a builder only reports LOA, it is impossible for us to know which use of LOA they are using. As this is the case, for consistency’s sake, we show LOA as reported by the builder regardless of whether it includes overhangs or not.
We feel like, to report LOA as hull length for the 320 mkII, then add a note reporting the overall length as something longer, can be confusing for most of our users who are not marine professionals like yourself.
For us, the best scenario for the 320 mkII, one that will be the easiest for most to understand and is consistent with how other boats are reported, is to report LOA including overhangs and LOD for hull length.
We hope you understand.
BTW, we have a note on the 320 page that states LOA equals hull length.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterOne. Me. 🙂
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterApologies for the delay in responding. We are seeing the same thing and will fix shortly. Thanks for the “heads-up.”
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHi Alasdair, We stand corrected. Looking at the book, Laurent Giles and His Designs by Adrian Lee and Ruby Philpott © 1991 by International Marine Publishing Co. We now see that we underreported the sail area for most Vertues. The “original” design, the ANDRILLOT, had a sail area of 366 sqft. That changes by hull #2. We have updated the record to report 395 sqft. We also added a record for the Vertue II, the GRP version of the VERTUE, still in production today by Bossoms Boat Yard in the UK.
Thanks for the “heads-up” on our error.
BruceBruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHi Paul,
Good news… Topic tags are no longer required. This should make everyone’s life a little easier.
BruceBruce_SailboatdataKeymasterIt looks like it could be a yawl. But the mizzen is forward of the transom hung rudder post making it a ketch.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterHi JHJ,
Do you happen to know if the Sun Classic 800 is the Dutch import of the Polish built Sun Classic 24, designed by Jacek Daszkiewicz?
Weet jij toevallig of de Sun Classic 800 de Nederlandse import is van de in Polen gebouwde Sun Classic 24, ontworpen door Jacek Daszkiewicz?
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterFrom Google Translate:
Good evening,
Does anyone have more information about the Sun Classic 800?
Particularly until
The sailing behavior.
Centerboard operation.
Rudder operation.If you own a Sun Classic 800, I would like to get in touch with you
Best regards
JHJ Berton
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterNot sure why this particular post went into Pending. I’ve posted your most recent attempt.
Allowing a post without a topic tag is on our list. Not only in Site Feedback but in general. Hopefully it will happen soon as requiring one makes the forum clunky.
Bruce_SailboatdataKeymasterGot it. Excellent information. Thanks Markus.
Bruce
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